The Valiance Online pre-alpha is over but the alpha will launch soon!

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AEGIS Nothing to do with criticism.

"When someone asks a legitimate question please do not answer with sarcasm or as if you have inside information. We welcome your feedback whether positive or negative but there is only so much rudeness that will be tolerated on these forums."

That being said, we didn't actually intend to have comments on this page so in preparation for the Alpha will be locking this thread and eventually deleting the comments. You are free to post your criticism elsewhere on the forums.
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TheCity Aegis, if you want to remove me from the forums then do so.

Although the videos are solid compared to the pre-alpha, they need a lot of work. For once I was excited, because there were actual videos, but the more I watched overnight, the more I was unimpressed. Remove someone whom did chip into your cause because they believe VO will not release alpha soon? That will be a good look, A great look for your upcoming project Aegis......

You cannot take criticism? Wrong business buddy. So people cannot speculate? Be sarcastic although I was not? Interesting, I am sure this is the kind of environment potential players would want to dwell in. One where they cannot have concerns or criticism, and if they do, it is deemed sarcastic.

Do what you gotta do buddy because I will keep sharing my concerns and criticisms. This is a clap back to a guy whom did his job, shared his criticisms and you guys could not take thus reached your breaking point which is not a good look.

You think I am one person? As in wrongdoing one guy is no biggie? If you do it to one, you will do it to many whom share criticism and concerns.

There are more criticism than praise in the MMO realm.

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AEGIS Vizz wrote:
Especially if you're extra amazing and donateeee!! (Insert "shut up and take my money!" meme here)

Yes if you donated you are guaranteed to get into the private alpha test when it launches.

Thank you for shilling that for us lol
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Vizz Especially if you're extra amazing and donateeee!! (Insert "shut up and take my money!" meme here)
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AEGIS D2rgirl wrote:
When is "soon", and how do you get an invite? D:

"Soon" means "when it's ready". :D

Just being registered on these forums means you are on the list of people who will be picked for the private test... which will be followed shortly by an open to everyone test.
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D2rgirl When is "soon", and how do you get an invite? D:
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Icculus Wolfshadw wrote:
jordan_yen wrote:
What are the requirements to participate in the alpha?

To my knowledge, the only requirements for playing in the Alpha would be an account here and an invite to play. The only requirement for an invite is having an account here.

Again, to my knowledge.

-Wolf sends
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- AEGIS
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mysticponce how do i sign up for alpha?
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MsMint cant wait ^_^
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Archanarchist lol city i get autism i get anticipation but dial it back a knotch
hope to be in pre alpha but with amount of complaining that their proof of concept pre alpha wasn't polished enough (lol) i can see why they are working on getting it all ship shape for green light, peoples insistence that they should have it prettier looking probably have been noticed even though they are really things that could be added later
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Haplo TheCity wrote:
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Funny thata everyone else whom was supposedly further behind are giving alpha dates.

All I am saying is something aint right

Dude, you wonder why everyone gets pissed off at you sometimes. Because you're a friggin' troll is why. VO has had something like 3 different PLAYABLE releases at this point. Pre-Alpha.
CoT is an 'indie project'? Are you frickin' kidding me? And VO isn't? I don't see VO with nearly $800 THOUSAND bucks of everyone's money with nothing but piles of lore and the occasional bucket of copy-paste Unreal engine code blocks and Models you can buy from the Unreal script stores, parading it around as their latest 'progress'.

Not to mention - other projects are giving Alpha dates? That far in the future? That's suppose to make me feel better? How many times has CoT blown their launch date, much less their Alpha dates now? 3? 4? Give me a break.

You are out of your mind man. Whenever this thing does launch, whether it is next week, or next year, I look forward to when you people are forced to realize that all of us who got ripped off by MWM (yeah, I chunked a crapload on those losers) are going to end up getting the product we ACTUALLY wanted from a friendly and decent team of people, with a staff of few and almost no budget to speak of.

Something ain't right I agree. MWM and the CoT project stealing my money and having the audacity to keep asking for more. That ain't right. Neither are you - in the head.

Have a great day. I hope you find a much happier and better place you can enjoy yourself, instead of just complaining here. Go over to CoT and brag to them about how great they are and how much you think VO is a joke - you should fit right in with a lot of people over there. Another reason I left the forums over there a long time ago. The vitriol is astounding.

Anyway, sorry about my short fuse, but good grief... can we get over this kind of crap already? Really?

Later all
/rant
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Peregrine Falcon TheCity wrote:
Fishy, I am telling yal'll something is fishy.
There's nothing "fishy" going on. They're just working on their product and that takes time.

TheCity wrote:
I am going to be sitting here saying i told you so.

They are not keeping it 100 with us.
Calm down and grow up. They're choosing to spend their time working on their product instead of constantly responding to your childish rants.
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TheCity Archanarchist wrote:
you complain that their pre alpha needed more texturing and animations and that alpha should be more polished then complain when they spend the necessary months building textures and animations before releasing alpha...
id love to be playing a wire frame right now but im minority on that , cosmetics take time
and soon is as good as anything else, its shorter then when its compiled

because they gave a date, backtracked it, now have no idea when it will be releasing but claim it is soon.

Meanwhile CoT gives a alpha release but you cannot supposedly being closer to alpha?

Fishy, I am telling yal'll something is fishy.

I am going to be sitting here saying i told you so.

They are not keeping it 100 with us.
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TheCity nightshade001 wrote:
TheCity wrote:
So are we building a game here or a joke?

Soon had a long time definition before the long-time joke. Therefore people whom are new and potential players feel the game will release will shortly. Obviously the definition is more prevalent than a joke, because people, til this day constantly ask about the alpha release and the "Soon" announcement.

This thread is full of examples of people asking.

if they were to say "We are pushing for 2018" or "late 2017" these questions would cease to exist for the most part. Just be honest. The soon is just going to get you the same questions you have been answering for over a year now.

CoT says they are shooting for 2018.

CoT=Indie project

CoT=team of volunteers building a game that was supposedly further behind than VO.

VO, your move.

Games, and programming in general, take time and lots of patience. At this point it is likely much to early to give any kind of estimate that some might view as a promise.

I'd rather they take a page from CD Projekt Red and say it will be ready when it's ready. Thus ensuring the game isn't rushed because of some kind of deadline. Being rushed has been one of the most common mistakes other developers have made when making a MMO.

I personally look forward to seeing how the game progresses now that it's in alpha.

Funny thata everyone else whom was supposedly further behind are giving alpha dates.

All I am saying is something aint right
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Icculus Mc-Mozart1 wrote:
For me it 's simple .To the creator , please take all the time you need to give us the best product possible .I will give you an example of a game that was suppose to be "EPIC" and MEMORABLE but was not ready to go out ...... No Mans Sky ....... it was an "EPIC" flop. :angry: DO NOT DO THE SAME MISTAKE

Yes, this, just do it right!
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Mc-Mozart1 For me it 's simple .To the creator , please take all the time you need to give us the best product possible .I will give you an example of a game that was suppose to be "EPIC" and MEMORABLE but was not ready to go out ...... No Mans Sky ....... it was an "EPIC" flop. :angry: DO NOT DO THE SAME MISTAKE
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Archanarchist you complain that their pre alpha needed more texturing and animations and that alpha should be more polished then complain when they spend the necessary months building textures and animations before releasing alpha...
id love to be playing a wire frame right now but im minority on that , cosmetics take time
and soon is as good as anything else, its shorter then when its compiled
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LOKI_123 rhenj
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PlatinumDynamite Hello everyone working on Valiance online I can't wait to play this game i am thinking about donating some money soon hope it helps with the progress of the game.
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nightshade001 TheCity wrote:
So are we building a game here or a joke?

Soon had a long time definition before the long-time joke. Therefore people whom are new and potential players feel the game will release will shortly. Obviously the definition is more prevalent than a joke, because people, til this day constantly ask about the alpha release and the "Soon" announcement.

This thread is full of examples of people asking.

if they were to say "We are pushing for 2018" or "late 2017" these questions would cease to exist for the most part. Just be honest. The soon is just going to get you the same questions you have been answering for over a year now.

CoT says they are shooting for 2018.

CoT=Indie project

CoT=team of volunteers building a game that was supposedly further behind than VO.

VO, your move.

Games, and programming in general, take time and lots of patience. At this point it is likely much to early to give any kind of estimate that some might view as a promise.

I'd rather they take a page from CD Projekt Red and say it will be ready when it's ready. Thus ensuring the game isn't rushed because of some kind of deadline. Being rushed has been one of the most common mistakes other developers have made when making a MMO.

I personally look forward to seeing how the game progresses now that it's in alpha.
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TheCity So are we building a game here or a joke?

Soon had a long time definition before the long-time joke. Therefore people whom are new and potential players feel the game will release will shortly. Obviously the definition is more prevalent than a joke, because people, til this day constantly ask about the alpha release and the "Soon" announcement.

This thread is full of examples of people asking.

if they were to say "We are pushing for 2018" or "late 2017" these questions would cease to exist for the most part. Just be honest. The soon is just going to get you the same questions you have been answering for over a year now.

CoT says they are shooting for 2018.

CoT=Indie project

CoT=team of volunteers building a game that was supposedly further behind than VO.

VO, your move.
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Icculus Well Soon is a longtime gaming joke :)
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TheCity Icculus wrote:
TheCity wrote:
Icculus wrote:
TheCity wrote:
Any chance to change the soon on this page and FB to TBA? It can be fairly deceiving, we have been soon status for quite some time now. It is my belief that TBA is better since you do not know when the alpha will launch.

Please don't focus on changing a "word", time is much better spent working on product! Thank you for all you do and are doing to bring us the game :)

That is your opinion but I still feel as if they should change it from soon to TBA, with all due respect, please do not attempt to tell me how to think.

Message was for the devs man, it's not all about you :)

Then why quote me?

People keeping asking about the alpha release every single day only to get the same reply, soon, which alludes to something imminent, change it and they will not avoid those questions.

So yea, it is for the devs and not all about me, which is why I said what I said, change it, avoid the same questions here and FB, profit.